[dcw] Name update

Steve Edberg edb... at edberg-online.com
Sun Jul 15 10:03:09 PDT 2012 

Ok, I wasn't sure how deep the objection was...

I think it would still be a good idea to do a mail vote with the original
five names (including Davis Makerspace), since there are more people on
the mailing list than show up at any given meeting, and there may be some
rethinking due to this discussion.

That being said, I'm personally ok with 'Davis Makerspace', so if we want
to just go with it and move on to creating mission
statments/logos/fundraising/etc that's fine too.

   steve

On Sun, July 15, 2012 12:01 am, Robert McMurry wrote:
> it is fine with me if it stands i just thought we could do better is all.
>  Robbie
> On Jul 15, 2012 3:37 AM, "Jeff Tolentino" <jeffto... at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Was that a full fledged objection?  If we re-voted with Davis
>> Makerspace
>> included and it won by majority could we accept it then?  A lot of
>> people were liking it last week.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Steve Edberg <edb... at edberg-online.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'm for another email vote, with a deadline of, say, the Monday after
>>>  this meeting (that is, July 23). Since there is an objection to
>>> 'Davis
>>> Makerspace', perhaps we should throw that out? I reran the results.blt
>>>  file through https://instantstv.appspot.com/ (Warren STV) using 6
>>> names instead of 5, and it added 'Davis Community Workshop' to the
>>> current five. If that doesn't have the same negative reaction as Davis
>>>  Makerspace, perhaps we could vote among
>>>
>>>
>>> Strange Attractor
>>> Collabolab
>>> Davis Community Workshop
>>> Fab Farm
>>> Spark Gap
>>>
>>>
>>> Alternatively, we could just toss Davis Makerspace and vote among the
>>>  final four (Strange Attractor, Collabolab, Fab Farm, Spark Gap), and
>>> use Davis Makerspace in a tag line/motto.
>>>
>>>
>>> steve edberg
>>>
>>> On 7/12/2012 11:36 PM, Jeff Tolentino wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since there seems to be some debate here, my thinking here is that
>>>> we should do one more vote across the wider group, with only the top
>>>> five selected from the last vote.
>>>>
>>>> That said, there was a lot discussed about different aspects of
>>>> name selection, most notably: --Domain name availability
>>>> --Desire to select something soon, so other projects can be worked
>>>> on (like centralizing our activities online)
>>>> --None of the top five names appear to have any funny acronyms or
>>>> unfortunate irregularities, and all five would be workable, (if
>>>> anybody not attending last meeting is seeing anything weird like
>>>> that, please alert the group).
>>>>
>>>> Regarding domain name availability, we did some quick searches
>>>> online during the meeting.  We tried different option but for
>>>> simplicity, below is a list of available domains using the each of
>>>> the top five names without spaces (by far, not an exhaustive search,
>>>> but if you're curious about other options, please look them up and
>>>> share with the group).
>>>>
>>>> StrangeAttractor.co
>>>> StrangeAttractor.me
>>>> StrangeAttractor.mobi
>>>> StrangeAttractor.biz
>>>> StrangeAttractor.cc
>>>> StrangeAttractor..xxx
>>>> StrangeAttractor.tv
>>>> StrangeAttractor.ws
>>>> StrangeAttractor.asia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Collabolab.co
>>>> Collabolab.info
>>>> Collabolab.me
>>>> Collabolab.mobi
>>>> Collabolab.us
>>>> Collabolab.biz
>>>> Collabolab.ca
>>>> Collabolab.cc
>>>> Collabolab.xxx
>>>> Collabolab.tv
>>>> Collabolab.ws
>>>> Collabolab.asia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DavisMakerspace.com
>>>> DavisMakerspace.co
>>>> DavisMakerspace.info
>>>> DavisMakerspace.net
>>>> DavisMakerspace.org
>>>> DavisMakerspace.me
>>>> DavisMakerspace.mobi
>>>> DavisMakerspace.us
>>>> DavisMakerspace.biz
>>>> DavisMakerspace.ca
>>>> DavisMakerspace.cc
>>>> DavisMakerspace.xxx
>>>> DavisMakerspace.tv
>>>> DavisMakerspace.ws
>>>> DavisMakerspace.asia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FabFarm.co
>>>> FabFarm.info
>>>> FabFarm.net
>>>> FabFarm.me
>>>> FabFarm.mobi
>>>> FabFarm.us
>>>> FabFarm.biz
>>>> FabFarm.ca
>>>> FabFarm.cc
>>>> FabFarm.xxx
>>>> FabFarm.tv
>>>> FabFarm.ws*FabFarm.asia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SparkGap.me
>>>> SparkGap.mobi
>>>> SparkGap.us
>>>> SparkGap.ca
>>>> SparkGap.xxx
>>>> SparkGap.ws
>>>> SparkGap.asia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Thu, 7/12/12, Robert McMurry /<remc... at gmail.com>/*
>>>> wrote:
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> From: Robert McMurry <remc... at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [dcw] Name update
>>>> To: davis-commun... at googlegroups.com
>>>> Date: Thursday, July 12, 2012, 5:53 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *fellow hacker/maker/creators,*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *i personally would prefer any of those other names over the
>>>> current davis makerspace.  if we want to attract the creative we
>>>> should name ourselves creatively... to have "davis" in our name is
>>>> redundant in my opinion ..... makerspace is similarly blah.  i would
>>>> opt for a more creative name with davis makersspace in the tagline.
>>>> like "ignitors; a davis makerspace since 2012"  o whatever oher name
>>>> we choose.  I'm continually haunted that we chose DBC (Davis bike
>>>> collctive) as our official title for the non profit since moving
>>>> from the Davis Bike Church (also DBC as is davis bike club).  i am
>>>> so gald we named the shop Bike Forth ... while confusing it is much
>>>>  better than what could have been.  *
>>>>
>>>> *I belive the same is true for us.  i would much rather explain our
>>>>  position till it is so well known it needs no explaination rather
>>>> than having a blah blah name that doesn't inspire those that might
>>>> have otherwise been inspired.*
>>>>
>>>> *~REM*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *On Jul 12, 2012 10:05 PM, "Steve Edberg" <edb... at edberg-online.com
>>>>  </mc/compose?to=edb... at edberg-online.com>> wrote:
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *I missed most of the last meeting, but herewith, my 2c:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While I initially started out liking the more descriptive names,
>>>>
>> the
>>>> more I thought about it the more I gravitated towards the more
>>>> dynamic-sounding names, eg Ignitor. I'm fine with the process we
>>>> went through to come up with Davis Makerspace, but I'm also amenable
>>>>
>> to
>>>> reconsidering if there is a significant objection. One other
>>>> alternative would be to use another name as a tagline...eg, Davis
>>>> Makerspace
>>>>
>> -
>>
>>>> Igniting Curiosity since 2012! (or, Attracting the Strange since
>>>> 2012...Farming the Fab since 2012...etc).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As a reminder, the results of the first round voting (from
>>>> http://daviswiki.org/Davis_Community_Workshop/Goals_and_Projects)
>>>>
>> are:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Strange Attractor
>>>> Collabolab
>>>> Davis Makerspace
>>>> Fab Farm
>>>> Spark Gap
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And one can browse The Big List at
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_ALL_Hacker_Spaces
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/12/2012 11:55 AM, Jeff Tolentino wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There was some talk about this at the last meeting.  There were
>>>>> generally 2 camps, those favoring a more descriptive, less creative
>>>>> name; and those favoring a more creative, less
>>>> descriptive name.
>>>>>
>>>>> In general, there was a larger majority of those favoring more
>>>>> descriptive, less creative.  The main reasons put forth was
>>>> that it was
>>>>> very easy to communicate to new people interested in joining
>>>>> (Davis
>>>>> Makerspace would be much more recognizable and wouldn't require
>>>>>
>>>> much
>>>>> further explaination), and that domain space was easy to get.
>>>> (Please
>>>>
>>>>> chime in if there were more reasons.)
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, a lot of people in both camps could appreciate the
>>>>>
>>>> merits of
>>>>> the other side.  Further discussion should be considered.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On *Thu, 7/12/12, Robert McMurry /<remc... at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>> </mc/compose?to=remc... at gmail.com>>/* wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Robert McMurry <remc... at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>> </mc/compose?to=remc... at gmail.com>>
>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [dcw] Name update
>>>>> To: davis-commun... at googlegroups.com
>>>>>
>>>> </mc/compose?to=davis-commun... at googlegroups.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 12, 2012, 11:03 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hey happy hacker of creative awesomeness, I feel strongly that the
>>>>> actual location should have a more
>>>> catchy
>>>>> name ... that is fine for the domain name in my opinion,
>>>> but it is
>>>>> very blah in my opinion and i would prefer a random pick
>>>> from the
>>>>> list over this name .... it is like saying lets make a
>>>> vehicle and
>>>>> then making a car ... the most easy and already established
>>>> vehicle
>>>>> in america ( in davis perhaps making a diamond frame bike
>>>> is more
>>>>> appropriate for this metephor).  This seems like a computer
>>>> listened
>>>>> in on the name discussion and picked a name based on
>>>> keywords and
>>>>> picked what got said most.  that is all for my rant .. i
>>>> was not
>>>>> there so hard or me to complain but i prefer almost any
>>>> name on the
>>>>> list over this one. Robbie
>>>>> On Jul 12, 2012 5:36 AM, "Jordan Van Aalsburg"
>>>>> <jordan.va... at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>> </mc/compose?to=jordan.va... at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> <
>>>>
>> http://us.mc1801.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jordan.vanaalsburg@gmail.
>> com
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fellow Makers-
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At the last meeting we came to a consensus regarding a
>>>>>
>>>> name.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are now (semi) officially the...
>>>>> wait for it...
>>>>>
>>>>> Davis Makerspace.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There were some in attendance (myself included) who
>>>>>
>>>> preferred a
>>>>> less literal name. However, in the end, we all agreed
>>>> that this
>>>>> name would make things much easier (obtaining a domain
>>>> name for
>>>>> example). If you were not able to attend and are strongly opposed
>>>>> to the name let's discuss it in this thread. If
>>>> there
>>>>> are no objections we will make it official at the next
>>>> meeting
>>>>> and begin work on fun stuff like registering a domain
>>>> name and
>>>>> setting up a website.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jordan
>>>>> --

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