I still call the Bike Church the Church. Some people call Bike Forth the Forth. Some call it the Bike Collective. These are different ideas of the space, and are not set in stone. <br><br>The Bike Collective is the 501c3 organization, the one paying the bills. It can accept grants on the behalf of informal groups, it buys insurance, tools (infrequently). Bike Forth is the (still new to me) garage, new people, and a different ways of running the shop using forms and price tags and food. The Bike Church is a bunch of friendly anarchists hanging out in a garage, with ministerial titles.<br>

<br>These mean different things (to me). I think y'all should grab the name DavisMakerSpace, and use it for 501c3, urls, paperwork. Then you can call the shop/projects whatever you want. Maybe a shop just east of downtown is the Collabolab, with a more structured approach and more fab robots. The FabFarm might be the welding shop, more on the edge of town with some gardens and a scrap yard. Maybe the cool names ought to come from what the project is, while the boring name is useful for boring stuff.<br>

<br>One name provides a rigid consistency that is easy to understand but belies a dynamic and complex process of resource centralization. It is a shill through which to interface with rigid structures like the IRS, the landlord, and DNS.<br>

<br>Darach<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Robert Nickerson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:r...@omsoft.com" target="_blank">r...@omsoft.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

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    I could get a <a href="http://x.davis.ca.us" target="_blank">x.davis.ca.us</a> domain for any name.<br>
    <br>
    But no one seems to want that these days :) <br>
    <br>
    RAN<div><div class="h5"><br>
    <br>
    On 7/12/2012 11:36 PM, Jeff Tolentino wrote:
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
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          <tr>
            <td valign="top">Since there seems to be some debate here,
              my thinking here is that we should do one more vote across
              the wider group, with only the top five selected from the
              last vote.  <br>
              <br>
              That said, there was a lot discussed about different
              aspects of name selection, most notably:<br>
              --Domain name availability<br>
              --Desire to select something soon, so other projects can
              be worked on (like centralizing our activities online)<br>
              --None of the top five names appear to have any funny
              acronyms or unfortunate irregularities, and all five would
              be workable, (if anybody not attending last meeting is
              seeing anything weird like that, please alert the group).<br>
              <br>
              Regarding domain name availability, we did some quick
              searches online during the meeting.  We tried different
              option but for simplicity, below is a list of available
              domains using the each of the top five names without
              spaces (by far, not an exhaustive search, but if you're
              curious about other options, please look them up and share
              with the group).<br>
              <br>
              StrangeAttractor.co<br>
              StrangeAttractor.me<br>
              StrangeAttractor.mobi<br>
              StrangeAttractor.biz<br>
              StrangeAttractor.cc<br>
              StrangeAttractor.xxx<br>
              StrangeAttractor.tv<br>
              StrangeAttractor.ws<br>
              StrangeAttractor.asia<br>
              <br>
              Collabolab.co<br>
              Collabolab.info<br>
              Collabolab.me<br>
              Collabolab.mobi<br>
              Collabolab.us<br>
              Collabolab.biz<br>
              Collabolab.ca<br>
              Collabolab.cc<br>
              Collabolab.xxx<br>
              Collabolab.tv<br>
              Collabolab.ws<br>
              Collabolab.asia<br>
              <br>
              DavisMakerspace.com<br>
              DavisMakerspace.co<br>
              DavisMakerspace.info<br>
              DavisMakerspace.net<br>
              DavisMakerspace.org<br>
              DavisMakerspace.me<br>
              DavisMakerspace.mobi<br>
              DavisMakerspace.us<br>
              DavisMakerspace.biz<br>
              DavisMakerspace.ca<br>
              DavisMakerspace.cc<br>
              DavisMakerspace.xxx<br>
              DavisMakerspace.tv<br>
              DavisMakerspace.ws<br>
              DavisMakerspace.asia<br>
              <br>
              FabFarm.co<br>
              FabFarm.info<br>
              FabFarm.net<br>
              FabFarm.me<br>
              FabFarm.mobi<br>
              FabFarm.us<br>
              FabFarm.biz<br>
              FabFarm.ca<br>
              FabFarm.cc<br>
              FabFarm.xxx<br>
              FabFarm.tv<br>
              FabFarm.ws<b>FabFarm.asia<br>
                <br>
                SparkGap.me<br>
                SparkGap.mobi<br>
                SparkGap.us<br>
                SparkGap.ca<br>
                SparkGap.xxx<br>
                SparkGap.ws<br>
                SparkGap.asia<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                --- On <b>Thu, 7/12/12, Robert McMurry <i><a href="mailto:remc...@gmail.com" target="_blank"><rem...@gmail.com></a></i></b>
                wrote:<br>
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              <blockquote><b><br>
                  From: Robert McMurry <a href="mailto:remc...@gmail.com" target="_blank"><rem...@gmail.com></a><br>
                  Subject: Re: [dcw] Name update<br>
                  To: <a href="mailto:davis-commun...@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">davis-commun...@googlegroups.com</a><br>
                  Date: Thursday, July 12, 2012, 5:53 PM<br>
                  <br>
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                  <p><b>fellow hacker/maker/creators,</b></p>
                  <p><b>i personally would prefer any of those other
                      names over the current davis makerspace.  if we
                      want to attract the creative we should name
                      ourselves creatively... to have "davis" in our
                      name is redundant in my opinion .... makerspace is
                      similarly blah.  i would opt for a more creative
                      name with davis makersspace in the tagline.  like
                      "ignitors; a davis makerspace since 2012"  o
                      whatever oher name we choose.  I'm continually
                      haunted that we chose DBC (Davis bike collctive)
                      as our official title for the non profit since
                      moving from the Davis Bike Church (also DBC as is
                      davis bike club).  i am so gald we named the shop
                      Bike Forth ... while confusing it is much better
                      than what could have been.  </b></p>
                  <p><b>I belive the same is true for us.  i would much
                      rather explain our position till it is so well
                      known it needs no explaination rather than having
                      a blah blah name that doesn't inspire those that
                      might have otherwise been inspired.</b></p>
                  <p><b>~REM</b></p>
                  <div><b>On Jul 12, 2012 10:05 PM, "Steve Edberg" <<a href="http://mc/compose?to=edberg@edberg-online.com" target="_blank">edb...@edberg-online.com</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
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                      <b>I missed most of the last meeting, but
                        herewith, my 2c:<br>
                        <br>
                        While I initially started out liking the more
                        descriptive names, the<br>
                        more I thought about it the more I gravitated
                        towards the more<br>
                        dynamic-sounding names, eg Ignitor. I'm fine
                        with the process we went<br>
                        through to come up with Davis Makerspace, but
                        I'm also amenable to<br>
                        reconsidering if there is a significant
                        objection. One other alternative<br>
                        would be to use another name as a tagline...eg,
                        Davis Makerspace -<br>
                        Igniting Curiosity since 2012! (or, Attracting
                        the Strange since<br>
                        2012...Farming the Fab since 2012...etc).<br>
                        <br>
                        As a reminder, the results of the first round
                        voting (from<br>
                        <a href="http://daviswiki.org/Davis_Community_Workshop/Goals_and_Projects" target="_blank">http://daviswiki.org/Davis_Community_Workshop/Goals_and_Projects</a>)
                        are:<br>
                        <br>
                                Strange Attractor<br>
                                Collabolab<br>
                                Davis Makerspace<br>
                                Fab Farm<br>
                                Spark Gap<br>
                        <br>
                        And one can browse The Big List at<br>
                        <br>
                                <a href="http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_ALL_Hacker_Spaces" target="_blank">http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_ALL_Hacker_Spaces</a><br>
                        <br>
                                - steve<br>
                        <br>
                        On 7/12/2012 11:55 AM, Jeff Tolentino wrote:<br>
                        > There was some talk about this at the last
                        meeting.  There were<br>
                        > generally 2 camps, those favoring a more
                        descriptive, less<br>
                        > creative name; and those favoring a more
                        creative, less descriptive name.<br>
                        ><br>
                        > In general, there was a larger majority of
                        those favoring more<br>
                        > descriptive, less creative.  The main
                        reasons put forth was that it was<br>
                        > very easy to communicate to new people
                        interested in joining (Davis<br>
                        > Makerspace would be much more recognizable
                        and wouldn't require much<br>
                        > further explaination), and that domain
                        space was easy to get.  (Please<br>
                        > chime in if there were more reasons.)<br>
                        ><br>
                        > That said, a lot of people in both camps
                        could appreciate the merits of<br>
                        > the other side.  Further discussion should
                        be considered.<br>
                        ><br>
                        > Jeff<br>
                        ><br>
                        > --- On *Thu, 7/12/12, Robert McMurry /<<a href="http://mc/compose?to=remcmurry@gmail.com" target="_blank">remc...@gmail.com</a>>/*
                        wrote:<br>
                        ><br>
                        ><br>
                        >     From: Robert McMurry <<a href="http://mc/compose?to=remcmurry@gmail.com" target="_blank">remc...@gmail.com</a>><br>
                        >     Subject: Re: [dcw] Name update<br>
                        >     To: <a href="http://mc/compose?to=davis-community-workshop@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">davis-commun...@googlegroups.com</a><br>
                        >     Date: Thursday, July 12, 2012, 11:03 AM<br>
                        ><br>
                        >     hey happy hacker of creative
                        awesomeness,<br>
                        >     I feel strongly that the actual
                        location should have a more catchy<br>
                        >     name ... that is fine for the domain
                        name in my opinion, but it is<br>
                        >     very blah in my opinion and i would
                        prefer a random pick from the<br>
                        >     list over this name .... it is like
                        saying lets make a vehicle and<br>
                        >     then making a car ... the most easy and
                        already established vehicle<br>
                        >     in america ( in davis perhaps making a
                        diamond frame bike is more<br>
                        >     appropriate for this metephor).  This
                        seems like a computer listened<br>
                        >     in on the name discussion and picked a
                        name based on keywords and<br>
                        >     picked what got said most.  that is all
                        for my rant .. i was not<br>
                        >     there so hard or me to complain but i
                        prefer almost any name on the<br>
                        >     list over this one.<br>
                        >     Robbie<br>
                        >     On Jul 12, 2012 5:36 AM, "Jordan Van
                        Aalsburg"<br>
                        >     <<a href="http://mc/compose?to=jordan.vanaalsburg@gmail.com" target="_blank">jordan.va...@gmail.com</a><br>
                        >     <<a href="http://us.mc1801.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jordan.vanaalsburg@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://us.mc1801.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jordan.vanaalsburg@gmail.com</a>>><br>


                        >     wrote:<br>
                        ><br>
                        >         Fellow Makers-<br>
                        ><br>
                        >         At the last meeting we came to a
                        consensus regarding a name.<br>
                        ><br>
                        >         We are now (semi) officially the...<br>
                        >         wait for it...<br>
                        ><br>
                        >         Davis Makerspace.<br>
                        ><br>
                        >         There were some in attendance
                        (myself included) who preferred a<br>
                        >         less literal name. However, in the
                        end, we all agreed that this<br>
                        >         name would make things much easier
                        (obtaining a domain name for<br>
                        >         example). If you were not able to
                        attend and are strongly<br>
                        >         opposed to the name let's discuss
                        it in this thread. If there<br>
                        >         are no objections we will make it
                        official at the next meeting<br>
                        >         and begin work on fun stuff like
                        registering a domain name and<br>
                        >         setting up a website.<br>
                        ><br>
                        >         -Jordan<br>
                        >         --<br>
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